10 Predictions for 2001
Thanks for another great year on Tushball.com. Our New Years
Predictions are as follows:
1. Both JP and Pud will get married (perhaps to each
2. Bosco will release a bootleg cd of Jerry Garcia eating a
burrito (8/14/81 Taco Palace).
3. Matt Healy will develop a new insurance company dedicated to
Palm Pilot replacement.
4. John Marks will win a million-dollar judgement...AGAINST
5. Steve Lebau will attend his high school reunion, and end up
6. Rocky Stone will renounce judiasm and become a cook at White
7. Vince McMahon will announce the formation of a new
full-contact Tushball league.
8. Harold's toupee will open a new camp...with Randy Wynn as
9. Mark Faiwell will acquire the New York Yankees and....(fill
in your own joke here).
10. Dorothy Herlitz will marry Emeril Legasse and adopt
JP....after a messy custody battle with Corrine from the
Now let's hear YOUR predictions...Happy New Year from the
Heidi & Bob, , email@example.com, [Msgid=89696]
Random camp encounters
Here's my random camp enounter. About two years ago I was
speaking at a Camping Conference here in California. There are
about 50 camping professionals in the audience and my theme is
about motivating staff to take camp counseling seriously. At
one point I begin to tell a story about an experience I had
growing up "at a private boys summer camp in the upper
Midwest"... As I'm telling the story I look out in the audience
and there is this guy who looks so familiar and I just can't
place it. When I mention "the upper Midwest" he lights up and
says something to the woman sitting next to him. I know he
recognizes me too... Turns out it is Todd Bramen who attended
camp 1982-1984 from Munster, Indiana (also home of Joe Pabon).
We were in a cabin together in 1982 with Pud, Tony "Death
Pilot" Searle and Scott Seideman, our CIT was Craig Selzman.
Not only that but for about two years we were best friends and
Todd even came to visit me in Peoria at one point. I hadn't
seen or spoken to him in 15 years. It turns out he directs a
JCC Camp in the Bay Area and was engaged to a woman he met in
Grad School. By the way, to this day the most scared I've ever
been in my life involved Tony Searle planting an object in an
"abandoned cabin" and then sending us in one by one in the dark
to try and find it. I don't know if the cabin or Tony scared me
Jeff Leiken, 6022, Tony@DeathPilot.com, [Msgid=89708]
Happy New Year...by the way, I think Pud would make a lovely
JMossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=89757]
2001 Timber-Odyssey! May you all experience peace, health and
happiness. My 01 prediction is all Timber-alum will have an
existential shift and begin to place less emphasis on "stuff"
and more on love and humanity! Sound goofy? Let's start with
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=89795]
Wing Fong Tay
On a less deep note...do any of the older guys remember Wing
JMossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=89811]
By the way Gazzoo, I already have Taco '81, and I have the
Pizza Tapes; but I haven't been able to score Cheeseburger
JMossler, , email@example.com, [Msgid=89812]
JayMoss good call on wing-fong-tay! I think Gorchy came up with
that neologism! What made you think of that? Is the "shift"
happening to you too?
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=89868]
WING FONG TAY
Jeff, was he on Hawaii Five-O?
Jonathan M. Heller, , email@example.com, [Msgid=89874]
I've been thinking of that off and on for years! Legend had it
that it meant "kiss my a**" I never knew if that was really
true. As far as the shift is concerned, I like to think that
friends and good times will always be more important to me than
things!..Sorry have to go drive the Bentley to the mall!
JMossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=89886]
Will some one please shed some light on all this taco, pizza
and cheesburger stuff! If not I am going to go out (in my new
Boxster) and purchase a PS2!!!
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=90003]
Oak Park-Timber Style
Congrats to the Raskins on the purchase of their house here in
our lovely town of Oak Park! And then there were three....who
else wants to join us? (PETROFFS!!!!, come on over!)
Da' Gazzooooos!, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=90053]
Hey Gazzoo, I was just looking at the Camper Portraits and
noticed Wally Posner's mug...did he send it to you, or did you
get it some other way?
JMossler, , email@example.com, [Msgid=90161]
Sometime in the early '80s I saw that several boxes of photos
were going to be thrown away from the "Seemelater" office...so
I nabbed and kept 'em for some future use...this is where a
majority of this site's pics come from. BTW, I have hundreds
more that I will get around to posting eventually.
Gazzoo, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=90194]
Oak Park MLS
Put me down for a Loft in the SOHO section of Oak Park - I will
put 10 % down on my Montgomery Wards Card
donald trump, , email@example.com, [Msgid=90218]
That mug of Wally was courtesy of the Records Dept. of the
Illinois State Penitentary at Joliet. As an unrelated aside,
Brian (Willy) Williams treated me to lunch today (thanks again,
Willy) at the Cherry Street Bar & Grill, Galesburg,
Illinois and sends his best.
Pudrick, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=90221]
Speaking of Montgomery Wards, does anybody else remember
hearing the rumor that the Wards in Minocqua, adjacent to the
big parking lot, was really a whorehouse?...I forget who told
me...also the Minocqua Hotel was rumored to be a similar
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=90388]
JayMoss I don't recall any "ladies" strutting down 51 or any
adjacent avenue (oh, how I looked)! I do however, recall
hearing the Minocqua Hotel was, in fact, a whorehouse. Matt
Taback once told me that he got "blown" at Paul Bunyan's, I
think by Babe!!
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=90403]
October, 1990. I'm living in a flat in Warsaw with no
telephone. I receive a postcard which states, in its entirety,
"Suss, Dead in Berlin. Be there. Meadow." No show dates, no
venue, no place to meet, no return address or phone number to
contact him. I somehow figured out the show dates (a Friday and
Saturday) and took off by overnight train on Thursday night,
arriving in Berlin Friday morning. I met a Polish lady on the
train who lived in East Germany with her German husband and she
offered to put me up (and my friend, if I could find him!) for
US $15 a night. Soon after arriving at her flat, I decided I
better head to West Berlin and attempt to figure out where the
show is and how to get tickets. Within 5 minutes of stepping
off the train in the heart of West Berlin, who should come
bobbing by but Mr. Jacobs himself! Mind you, where we met
wasn't even remotely close to where the shows were. I had,
without a doubt, one of my most memorable weekends ever (that's
a story for another time!). The TimberGods must have wanted us
to meet! To them, I say thank you!
David Susman, , email@example.com, [Msgid=90917]
Welcome to America
Just got an E-mail from Leslie and Mike Cohen about a Camp
Timberlane Message Board???? Gazzoo getting competition???
FIGHT BACK GAZZOO....
Marksy, , , [Msgid=91126]
No Competition Here!
We're not in competition with anyone. This site is a TRIBUTE to
the Camp Timberlane of 1961-1986. If anything, it complements
the other site. This board allows adult alum to commiserate
without association to the current camp. This is a "fan" site.
There are subjects that are appropriate here that wouldn't be
for the current Camp Timberlane. There is no "fight" or
"competition." We contribute whatever we can to Mike's site,
and he does the same for us! If anything, I'm sure that a
current camp wouldn't want the association of that camper named
Heidi Gassel, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=91139]
Tony, Toni, Tone
I'll take Gazzie in 6 with a TKO
Sonny Liston, , , [Msgid=91151]
Tony, Toni, Warren Wiegratz??
Marksy, , , [Msgid=91232]
Tony Miller? Tony Wallace? Tony Elman? I don't even know which
Tony I'm refering to here. Sus, help me out!
Mrs. Gazzoo, , email@example.com, [Msgid=91347]
Who's Tony? Never heard of him. What years was he at camp?!
David Susman, , , [Msgid=91372]
Hello from Metro Detroit. Red and Donald Duck David (and dog)
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=91669]
Nice spot to change shoes in, ay Pud? Hey Tony Soprano?
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=91768]
Jonesin for JayMoss
hello, hello, hello , is there anybody out there? just nod if
you can hear me...is there anybody home? There is no pain...you
are receding, a distant smoke out on Lake Towanda...wait
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=92308]
The wind whispers Mary?
I WOULD CONSIDER MAKING THE TREK TO MORTON GROVE IF THE VIKES
BEAT THE GIANTS THIS WEEKEND AND IF SOMEONE HAS A PLACE FOR ME
TO SLEEP SUNDAY NIGHT NEARBY THE REUNION. SOUNDS A LITTLE FAR
FETCHED BUT YOU KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN!!CONER (MN)
CONER, , MEDGASCO@AOL.COM, [Msgid=92429]
I've been checking the board but alas, my creative muse has
dried up and all my teams have left me completely unable to
talk trash!...wish I could join you all at the Super Bowl
gig...but have to attend David Simon's firstborn son's Bar
Mitzvah weekend which includes a Sunday Brunch....me and Rick
are still headed up to Minocqua to snowmobile on Feb. 1...so my
camp Jones will be somewhat sated by that, I hope!
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=92492]
OH WELL!! I'M OUT !! MAYBE NEXT YEAR. CONER
CONER, , MEDGASCO@AOL.COM, [Msgid=93061]
Having just returned from the AFC Championship Game - and
watching the Raiders get whomped by Ray Lewis and some other
people - I have deceided to give up my Raiders Season tix once
and for all.. Why? Because when I'm there I'm truly "working
with idiots!" My friend Blaine summed it up best by saying,
"You know when you go to a football game in Detroit or Chicago,
you're going to a game with football fans. When you go to a
game in Oakland, you're going to a game with people from
Oakland!"... Sorry I won't be at the Super Bowl party but I
intend to be hiking in the Redwoods that day!
Jeff Leiken, , GoBears@Chicago.com, [Msgid=93123]
Go Houston Texans!!! Thanks to Carl Bassewitz for supplying our
daughter with Nike gear! When is a Raven not a Raven?
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=93269]
Pete tell us your riddles NEVER MORE!
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=93437]
Raven Scientific Name: Corvus Corax Ravens are all black and
are 24 inches tall; crows are only 17 inches tall. Who has a
goatee and in various positions may also be 24 inches tall?
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=93510]
The Zen of Mort
Excellent stab young JayMosshopper, but we musn't forget
Rumpelstiltsken. Now, when is a Giant really a half of a
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=93606]
A Timber Family Story
My kid and I are in a group called "Me and My Dad"...which is
sponsored by the Jewish Community Center. Once a month, we get
together with other father/sons for a night of fun activity.
Last night, we had a evening of games like balloon games, relay
races, etc.. The last activity was a tug-of-war where all the
kids were pulling against 2 fathers at a time. When it was my
turn to pull against twelve 6 year-old kids, my partner just
happened to be Timber-alum Bobby Weiss, who was there with his
kid. Without even a word, the Weiss/Marks team knew what to do.
Of course we were talking trash as we got a good grip on the
rope-- told the kids they didn't have a chance against the high
and mighty Timberlane Alums! Then the leader yelled-- 1
(everyone was digging in) 2 (you can see in the kids eyes--
they meant business) 3 PULL!! What does Weiss/Marks do???? WE
PULLED THE OLD DROP ROPE TRICK....the kids went flying over
each other-- Bobby and I grabbed the rope off the ground and
pull it to VICTORY!! Bobby and I did this without saying a word
to each other--like 2 brothers who knew exactly what to do
through past experiences. My belief is that I could have been
partnered with most of you guys and we would have done the
exact same thing-- Once you're a Timberlane family member,
those things are natural! Go Thailand...
Marksy, , , [Msgid=93609]
You Must Be Very Proud...
So Marksy outsmarted some six-year-olds...geez don't give me
straight lines like this! Reminds me of the 'Seinfeld' episode
where Kramer clobbers all the kids in Karate class.
Gazzoo, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=93614]
Marksy, I hear some of the kids have already contacted
Red, , email@example.com, [Msgid=93620]
Nothing Left To Do But....
...syrup & feather the kids before tossing them into a
lake, then enjoy a steak dinner in their presence.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=93644]
Marksy son, you very tricky man. However, the true way goes
OVER a rope, which is not stretched at any great height but
just above the ground. It seems more designed to make people
stumble than to be walked upon. F.K.
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=93699]
Pete are you truly a Zen Master, or just emulating Phil
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=93934]
I believe you already understand Jaymosshopper, the way is not
difficult; only there must be no wanting or not wanting.
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=93985]
Kaufzen, Mosshopper, Mosquito and the rest:
Another Member to the Timber Family
Congrats to David and Suzie Morris on child #2 Kayla Amanda
Morris, born on 1/23/01. Sorry JP, the official time of
delivery was 1:19 in the afternoon.
Danny Plattner, , email@example.com, [Msgid=95380]
Re: New Timber Family Member
If the baby was passed around to all in the L&D; room by 1:23,
then it's good.
The rules, I believe, are very liberal as long as there is good
Kinda reminds me of heading towards the ski dock and realizing
I'm sure Joey will acquiesce.
BRAVO to David & Suzie!
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=95386]
What does this mean?
In the 1974 Newsletter #8, H reports that: "We had a
two-pronged social with Chippewa Ranch Camp for Girls." What is
a "two-pronged social"? Might I need to defer to the likes of
Phil Perlson to explain that one?
Jeff Leiken, 800 two-prong, Jeff@two-pronged.com, [Msgid=95702]
Two Pronged answer
If I'm not mistaken, it means the older campers would go to the
girls camp, and the younger girls would come to Timberlane, or
vice versa. I believe that's the way it was done.
JMossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=95770]
Looking for Mother of Perle
I dont know who exactly thought I was in a similar category as
my brother as far a popularity, but I had to be the quietest,
shyest and inconsequential drug additct ever at Timberlane.
I've acquired many other tastes other than sitting in the
makeshift table in the woods with Mike Perlson and buddies. A
few hospital visits as well (next chapter), but I have not
heard from Phil Perlson who I was told, was a screenwriter in
LA. Let me know if anyone has heard from him and Mike.
James Lynch, 303-682-1276, email@example.com, [Msgid=95772]
Perl is around....
Message to Jim Lynch....... there is a section of Tushball.com
In this section, Timber-alums have submitted their names,
occupations and e-mail addresses. Phil Perl is in the
TimberBase and responds to e-mails. You might want to try
e-mailing Perl and see what happens...
All of us, , , [Msgid=95856]
Inspiration From P. B. Utah
Do camp time memories still exist
within your grown-up world?
Family priors must top your list,
have all the balls been hurled?
it all here
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=96080]
I know the host of this site discourages anonymous posts but
... WHO'S THAT GUY AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE WITH THE HOT, HAIRY
ASS?! Please tell me he's single AND that he chews tobacco. If
so, I want him!
Hot Boy in Heaven, 219-YourHot, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96447]
No more treats for you guys. I'm not sure if that's a hairy
crack or if I just didn't wipe well (diet hasn't been too great
lately). Ya'll are a bunch of fricken' voyeurs.
Pudbutt, , email@example.com, [Msgid=96452]
I will not be anonymous.....looking at that picture of Pud--
made me throw up.
marksy, , , [Msgid=96457]
I'm an apeman
Marksy son re: hurled-my mistake, I thought you meant Dorothy
as in you did her! Only words young Marksyen.."if you wish to
drown, don't torture yourself with shallow water."
p'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96577]
I really must be losing it, I actually understood PK's last
Red, , email@example.com, [Msgid=96593]
Pud Bed and Ass
After all these years of being in camp incommunicato, my first
contacts have been Pud's bed on the Pud-O-Cam and then Pud's
ass on the message board. All I need now is a Donna
Workyourhoseover memorabilia shot and I'll be ready for my camp
anniversary bottle of Jay Bavay. Thanks for the memories
Martin Lynch, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96618]
Whose bed it is anyway?
Is this an example of a two-pronged social? And where did Pud
get tht single bed from.. certainly not JP's King sized bed
combo in Cheyene!
Jeff Leiken, , sprinky@PudShots.com, [Msgid=96666]
Thank god for the poor quality of that photo...I'm sure the
fine details are something none of us want to see!
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=96714]
Biling in da nort wood
Anyone have any words of wisdom about snowmobiling in
Minocqua...Rick and I are going on a day trip there
JMoss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96715]
Jay and Rick Mosshopper... have a safe trip and enjoy the
solitude of the winter trails. In the beginner's mind there are
many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few.
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=96752]
Snowmobiling Words Of Wisdom
Sleds + Thin Ice=No Fun
re: Callahan, circa early 90's: During one particular
'Sledfest' Tom came back to his cabin late at night after he
and his sled took a dip. I recall about five of us holding bic
lighters to his snowsuit because the zipper was frozen with
ice. Never seen a person shiver like that.
FYI: The town on Minocqua allows you, I think, only 24 hours to
have your sled salvaged from the lake bottom before they hit ya
with heavy fines for compromising the environment. So it's a
good idea to bring a one ton floating crane with you just in
JP could enlighten you on the exact location of the race course
we set up as well as the choice times to beat.
Actual timings must be officiated by Corrine.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=96775]
Pud from all alums of Tulane University, your ass has set the
university back at least 10 years. Where are the gold old days
of point shaving and cola.......PS. what class did I take with
you. It was a history class that bored the shit out of
SSpeer, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96893]
Jay Bavay and Other Rock Gut
Peter - Jay Bavay was one of probably 4 or 5 brands of low end,
cheap, rock gut whiskey we used to tank up on. $4 would get
Perl and I stoked up for songwriting, Friday night campfires,
and other late night camp activities. I forget - what was the
name of the 2 sisters that used to bartend at the Annex? The
younger one used to give us fifths of Jack Daniels for 6 or 7
bucks when her older sister wasn't around. Both of the sisters
were a blast to hang out with.
Martin Lynch, , email@example.com, [Msgid=96960]
OK, I think everyone's been grossed out enough, Gazzoo so you
can remove the above pic (until next time). Leiky, the twin bed
is part of a 2-set-combo-setup that I inherited from my
grandparents when they passed into the Great Beyond in the Cold
Northland. My regular bed (a queen) was just too worn out from
all the bed-banging sessions I had thru the 90s. One gal broke
my headboard. Jesus always told me to "LOVE 'EM ALL" and I
still do "love 'em all." Perl, Joey, Bosco and probably a few
others have pics of those who I've loved fairly recently.
STUUUUART...nice to see you pop on here (God, where is Gary
Kranz at this very moment and what is he doing?) I'll tell you
one thing, I had nothin' to do with that scandal, but have
always treasured my personal relationship with former NFL
All-Pro Defensive Back Lionel Washington #48. He just won't
give me any of his money right now. You're goin' back a ways
here; I can't even recall you being in my class, but it was
most likely a history class of sorts, since that was my major
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=96964]
Can we set up a vote to get rid of this picture? Soon, please!
P.S. Pud. Shut the camera off in your room!
Jeff Leiken, , Republicans@politics.com, [Msgid=97247]
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