How to Lose Friends & Win Enemies
All I can say Gary is that I can't wait to post a recent photo
of you. Just be glad we don't have access to the David Gast
And which Mossler were you referring to?
[Date/Time=08-01-01 - 10:22 AM]
Bob Gazzoo, Oak Park,
Illinois, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=145801]
Don't be so serious...
Gazzoo...I was referring to Jeff. Did you get my check for the
video? I am going to get a digital camera and take a picture of
me with the kids, so you can have a good laugh. The hair is
mostly gray but it is still there. Pud likes my sense of humor!
What can I say, I have been incommunicado for over 20 years and
you guys have been having all this fun without me.
[Date/Time=08-04-01 - 2:27 AM]
Gary Winston, , GWINS26950@aol.com, [Msgid=147044]
If anyone knows the whereabouts of Bobby Handmaker, please let
me know. I talked to him a couple of months ago and he said he
was moving, but wasn't sure where. I think it was either LA or
[Date/Time=08-05-01 - 6:54 PM]
Gazzoo, 4 months from being a
dad, email@example.com, [Msgid=147564]
Stop the presses....I'm losing my hair!!!!..I don't know if
I'll ever recover....I was losin it in 1980, your last year
Winnie...go back and look at the pictures!
[Date/Time=08-05-01 - 7:21 PM]
JMoss, , , [Msgid=147571]
SPEAKING OF HAIR...
And one more thing, Winnie, while I started the thinning
process after you left camp, I'm the only guy, Harold said, who
would have to BUY a wife. I never knew how right he was, so
[Date/Time=08-05-01 - 11:25 PM]
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=147631]
Puddy comparisons are odious! BUT if you buy go Asian or
African, it's my fantasy don't ask me why!!!
[Date/Time=08-08-01 - 8:33 PM]
P'troff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=148711]
Pete was always the first in line for seconds on BBQ
Chicken.....now we know why!!
[Date/Time=08-08-01 - 9:51 PM]
David Gast, , totempole.com, [Msgid=148769]
AUGUST 9, 1995 - AUGUST 9, 2001
6 YEARS FAR TOO LONG SINCE A REALLY GOOD DANCE.
[Date/Time=08-09-01 - 11:10 PM]
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=149166]
The Dry Spell
Pud, has it really been that long since your last date?
[Date/Time=08-10-01 - 3:48 AM]
Gazzoo, , email@example.com, [Msgid=149193]
Debbie still serving $ .25 beers?
Remember the feeling you had when you knew you were going up
north and you couldn't wait to get there? I'm going up next
Tuesday for Agawak Family Camp.
[Date/Time=08-13-01 - 11:54 AM]
marksy, , LeavePudAlone@CircusAct.com, [Msgid=150027]
Tell Billy to get into town for his daily "parts run" for the
BOATS...I'd guess he's been on parts' runs ever since he took
over Agawak. What do you think?
[Date/Time=08-13-01 - 7:20 PM]
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=150226]
I think Pud has lost it
[Date/Time=08-13-01 - 8:16 PM]
BODAN, , , [Msgid=150278]
Is He For Real??
Pud, I think you've lost your f**king mind........or what was
LEFT of it!!!
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 12:30 AM]
JP, , , [Msgid=151228]
Go up to Agawak, Joe and ask Billy. Parts' runs were post-1982
era I think.
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 8:07 AM]
Pud, , email@example.com, [Msgid=151265]
Pud, so what exactly are we voting on? I believe that is the
question for all of us that think you have totally lost your
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 9:44 AM]
marksy, , , [Msgid=151297]
Paid in yogurt!!
Hey JMoss,Do you remember in the late 70's, I did town run and
kept Barrys trailer's fridge stocked with Dannon yogurt.Nancy
Hiken couldn't figure out why there was a few hundred charges
@.41 and I confessed that we were living on yogurt that summer.
And yes,the auto parts and boat parts counters were a regular
stop, But, I bet you can't just sign for the purchase like we
did in the 70's.I remember signing for a full station wagon of
cereal boxes and then a few hundred dollars of raw chicken from
the Red Owl!! Nothin' like working for yogurt and you can send
the check to....
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 12:03 PM]
Coner/Conehead, , Medgasco@aol.com, [Msgid=151354]
"I'd guess he's been on parts' runs ever since he took over
Agawak. What do you think?" The question being...do you or do
you not think Billy's been on "continued" parts' runs, while
he's been owner/operator/director of Camp Agawak? I'm closing
on my house today at 2PM, so express the money today,
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 1:08 PM]
Pud, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=151371]
Having once been a co-counselor with Billy and having seen him
in action at Agawak I can assure you he is not the
parts-running demon he once was. Pud, being that your life is
an on-going parts run, I wouldn't be throwing stones at
anyone's house. Also remember that there are some Agawak
parents out there that may not have the same appreciation for
any jokes you might be making at Billy's expense.
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 5:45 PM]
Red, , email@example.com, [Msgid=151459]
Time On His Hands???
As the relative of an Agawak employee, I am truely offended. To
think that MP's boss would do nothing but parts runs is utterly
insulting......and what if Billy was sending MP on these parts
runs, hmmmm..... But anyone who has been to the Agawak site
this summer can attest, Billy doesn't have time to make parts
runs.......he's too busy taking pictures!!!!!
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 8:46 PM]
JP, , , [Msgid=151522]
"Pud, being that your life is an on-going parts run, I wouldn't
be throwing stones at anyone's house. Also remember that there
are some Agawak parents out there that may not have the same
appreciation for any jokes you might be making at Billy's
expense." SHADDDUPPPP...HOW WOULD AGAWAK FOLKS EVER READ A
TIMBER BOARD AND, EVEN IF THEY DID, WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT GOIN'
INTO TOWN TO BUY BOAT PARTS? WHAT MAKES YOU SO BELITTLING
TOWARDS ME? YOUR FIERY RED HAIR? YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 10:05 PM]
Pud, , , [Msgid=151532]
Has the heat gotten to you all? Everyone chill on Puddy! Puddy
chill on everyone! Cause P'troff is a going hoeing, who wants
to come get some (I'm buying)???
[Date/Time=08-16-01 - 10:41 PM]
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=151557]
Pud-- the sequal
"Pud, your life is a parts run"--- HILARIOUS!!! Funniest thing
Red has said in 20 years. Pud, I do believe that JMoss is an
Agawak parent....unless the kid in the Agawak picture (who
looks like Moss) is an imposter. By the way Pud, Red's watch
cost more than your house (Glengary Glen Ross)
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 9:02 AM]
marksy, , , [Msgid=151662]
Those who attempt to run me down I can do without. I've learned
to surround myself with the more positive aspects of life.
Expensive watches or big money don't bring me an overabundance
of content. Peace in both mind and spirit do. My Seiko (a gift
given to my from my parents upon my 1983 college graduation),
along with a cheap $20 watch I won during a sales contest
several years ago, do just fine in the timekeeping dept. Good
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 9:41 AM]
Pud, , , [Msgid=151672]
Stop the Pud-bashin'
HEY! HEY! 1...2....3...No canteen. Quit screwin' around you
guys. You screw around, you get screw ups.
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 11:43 AM]
Lee, , email@example.com, [Msgid=151726]
For the record, I'll deal with the latest of Pud's Caps Lock
tirades via private E-mail, don't think anyone wants to read
anymore of this crap.
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 11:56 AM]
Red, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=151731]
I'm laughing so hard...my assistant thinks I'm nuts
Classic stuff Pud....great Pow Wow material for Lee
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 12:25 PM]
marksy, , , [Msgid=151741]
Probably Fruitless Attempt at Changing the Subject
eh...ummm...er...how about them Cubs?
[Date/Time=08-17-01 - 12:58 PM]
Gazzoo, , email@example.com, [Msgid=151754]
It's great to know we've all changed so much in the last 20
year or so!
[Date/Time=08-18-01 - 9:10 AM]
JMoss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=152125]
Paging Dr. Jeff !!
Hey JMoss, Did you see my post to you, " Paid in Yogurt"?? I
tried to diffuse the negative bull... board with a subject
change to "who had the worse town run?" Please acknowledge! Any
Timber runs go sour, I had a hell of a time with Jeff Sable one
night when picked up at camp by some local girls.
[Date/Time=08-20-01 - 3:44 PM]
Coner/Conehead, , email@example.com, [Msgid=152903]
kiwi's and whipped cream
I vaguely remember the yogurt runs...but mostly the late night
heinous runs to save-more for kiwi's, nut mix, and of course
sampling the whipped cream cans!......that place seemed like
such a mecca back then!
[Date/Time=08-20-01 - 10:21 PM]
JMoss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=153051]
Where is Bosco??
Bosco where are you when we all need a story to cheer us up!!
Can you remember any town run fiasco? Hey P'troff was it you
and me that got the red apache pick-up stuck up to the doors in
mud?? Anyway, trying to pick things up a bit at the end of camp
[Date/Time=08-23-01 - 4:32 PM]
Coner/Conehead, , email@example.com, [Msgid=153995]
Timber Life Lesson
I haven't put up many posts since I first found out about the
web site earlier this year, but I've enjoyed reading most of
the posts. Some of the stuff I've read is hilarious and brings
back wonderful memories. But with some of the recent posts
getting a bit acrimonious, I figured I'd try my hand at one of
my classic Timber memories.
It was the middle of the summer of 79, high stress in the
riding stables, and a few other things on my mind that summer
so I needed to blow off some steam. I'm in a camp car
(Oldsmobile station wagon - is it even made anymore?) near
Arbor Vitae or Eagle River with 2 other guys. I think Phil
Perlson was with me but I can't be sure (I'm also not the
driver, but lost brain cells or age prevents me from
remembering who the mystery 3rd person was that was driving).
Anyway, we picked up a couple of 6 packs of the Northern brew
(Old Style) and packed it in the cooler in the back seat. As
usual, we also had quite a bit of herbage flowing around the
car that day and were having a blast driving around the back
roads of the Northwoods. Now at that time, I was still living
in Dallas, Texas and in Texas at that time, believe it or not,
you could drink and drive. By the way if I remember correctly,
in 1979 in Texas, you could drink and drive, you could shoot a
gun and drive, but you couldn't drive, drive, and shoot a gun
all at the same time. I'm 19 years old and it never occurred to
me that I couldn't drink in a car all over the world like I
could in Texas. Well, we're cranking out a hell of a time down
the back roads of the northern woods and I'm drinking my beer
without even trying to hide to conceal it when the lights and
siren come on behind us and we get pulled over. Whoever was
driving the car convinced me take their beer and say it was
mine since they'd loose their license if they got caught
drinking and driving. I'm saying what the hell for, we do that
in Texas all the time! So I took the beer, chugged down my own
and spilled it all over the floor of the car, and we're
stashing the herbs all at the same time. It was a Vilas County
Sheriff and he orders us out of the car. He starts searching
the car and pulls forward the front passenger seat where I was
sitting and looks behind and says to us "Looks like you boys
spilled some of your pop." Well we thought he said pot instead
of pop and started freaking out with wide eyes staring at each
other thinking Oh shit, we're dead! Well the next thing you
know he's dumping out the cooler and pointing to me saying he
saw me pour my beer on the floor and that he was going to dump
out the rest of our pop from the cooler and we realized it
wasn't pot he'd found after all. Man, we all almost fainted
from relief on the spot. The sheriff explains to my amazment
that he's writing me ticket for drinking an intoxicant in a
motor vehicle and I actually had the stupidity or nievity to
explain to him that back in Texas, this wasn't a problem. At
that point he threatens me with jail but somehow he decided not
to arrest me. I figured the worst was over at this point when
who should drive by but Sharon Hiken. What are the odds that a
Vilas County Sheriff and Sharon Hiken would be driving around
the back woods just where I had happened to be on my day off?
My day now sunk to a new level. As she drove by, someone in her
car (I don't know if it was her or not) yelled out "Bust them
all!" and kept on driving. I ended up with a $64 ticket but the
thing I'll always remember about the incident is not the bust
or the worry about the pot or the Sheriff threatening me with
hauling me off to jail. It was the look in Sharon's eyes as she
drove past us. In hindsight, that was my summer of unruly
behavior and I deserved the eye from Sharon. It was a pretty
rude awakening for me and helped start to turn me around for
the rest of the summer. Of course I didn't drink any less, but
at least that was the last time I drank on the road.
[Date/Time=08-23-01 - 8:07 PM]
Martin Lynch, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=154101]
If any of ex-Timbers who have simliar stories as Martin and
your kids are going to camp up north...you need to go ahead and
tell your kids everything because M.P. will! I have had quite a
bit of explaining to do. Thanks again M.P.
[Date/Time=08-25-01 - 7:05 PM]
Howard Segal, , Howsea@aol.com, [Msgid=154674]
Future Camp Advise
As a future 1st time expectant father (due Feb. 25), I wonder
what any ex-Timbers have said to their children as they've sent
them to camp. There were some great times I had, but I know I
also had some very close calls and did a number of idiotic
things. What do you say to your kids on their frist trip to
camp or when they go off in their teens? I know I've probably
got at least 6 or 7 years to figure this out, but I'm also
[Date/Time=08-25-01 - 8:24 PM]
Martin Lynch, , email@example.com, [Msgid=154698]
Hey coner-son...No it was not I who muddied the Apache! What
was your job at camp anyway? All I know is I want my Puddy
[Date/Time=08-26-01 - 7:57 AM]
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=154824]
re: Timber Life Lesson
Just to clarify...the other two guys in the car with Martin
Lynch were myself and Tom Callahan. This is one instance where
I can say "Thank God for Mark Faiwell"!!
[Date/Time=08-26-01 - 6:18 PM]
Gazzoo, , email@example.com, [Msgid=155003]
Back from the Northwoods!!
Just came back from Agawak Family Camp-- had a great week with
Bobbo Heilbrenner and was amazed when his 4 year old son
actually got up on the boom!! I would have to say that's a
record..... Let me tell all Timber alums--- Billy treats all
Timber alums like royalty. If you haven't had a chance to make
it up, make plans for next year. I had an amazing time and his
staff is incredible.
[Date/Time=08-26-01 - 7:46 PM]
marksy, , , [Msgid=155032]
Keep our kids blissfully ignorant!
ditto that Howard!....MP told my daughter the infamous Kawaga
soccer fiasco story....MP if you ever have kids....watch out
[Date/Time=08-26-01 - 9:39 PM]
JMoss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=155062]
more on MP
by the way Moss.....I spoke to 4 incredible looking Australian
and New Zealand girls who said they are staying with MP in
Milwaukee for a couple days. He might have a big mouth but if
its being used for some of the right things, MP's my new
[Date/Time=08-26-01 - 10:00 PM]
marksy, , , [Msgid=155075]
Jeff Neri lives , question for Bernie
Jeff Neri checked in with me last week, after a several several
year no call, no show. Anyway, he is well, working in Nevada
(with pickup truck and mutliple weapons) as the plant manager
for a big company that makes sails for big boats and yachts (I
never took sailing with Matt H. so please excuse the jargon) As
expected, he had some varied life experiences to share...
To Bernie Schecter - are you coming to Baltimore?..or did we
scare you away with the cheap housing and tution for private
[Date/Time=08-27-01 - 3:47 PM]
steve lebau, , email@example.com, [Msgid=155314]
do not look for me, I am not lost....I'm RUNNING AWAY
Hi guys, hope all finds you well. I haven't been on the site in
a while. Just too busy. But its great to be back. Jennifer and
I had our third baby boy on June 28th. His name is Joey.
For me, I sold my seat at the Chicago Board of Trade at the end
of May and opened a specialty running store in the Bucktown
section of Chicago. The name is Running Away and is located at
1753 N. Damen. 773-395-AWAY
[Date/Time=08-27-01 - 10:11 PM]
Paul Rosenblum, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=155470]
Variety is the Spice of Life
Nice to see some new people on the board!....no offense Pud,
Marksy, Gazzoo, Petroff, etc.
[Date/Time=08-27-01 - 11:34 PM]
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=155504]
Billy Back from "Parts Run"
Boy o boy, I come to check out this sight and see myself
getting lambasted by the Pudster. Ouch!, Hey Pud, weren't you
the guy outside my counselor room in Chippewa cabin blowing
cigar smoke in at Jungle Jim Meyers and myself? Anyways, hi and
howrya to all the Timberalums. Have to tell you I have been
through Timberlane and things are looking great. You would all
be proud. I am also proud of all you Timberlaners that have
supported me at Camp Agawak. Just had Marksy up for a family
program, the guy cracked me up, and I have to tell you has a
wonderful family. John's first announcement when he had the
microphone was "First period Athletics bring your softball
mitts..." Bobbo Heilbronner was in attendance as well. This
summer I had the pleasure of having Josh Taxman's daughter at
camp, as well as Jeff Mossler's, Jeff Minkin's, Steve Fivel's,
Larry Rabin's, Eddo Fried's stepdaughter, and more. My mind is
mush from a busy summer so I apologize for those I am
forgetting. I am mush from the summer NOT from a parts run!
Love all of you and Bravo to Gazzoo and Heidi for providing
this format. They also made an appearance in the northwoods,
and by next summer they will have a camper in tote as Heidi is
pregnant. Hi to all...Full Speed Ahead...Where is Dean
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 2:22 AM]
Billy, In heavenly northwoods
of Wisc, Parts@agawak.com, [Msgid=155921]
JayMoss a semi-ouch...but there is nothing like new, fresh,
inexperienced, trust me. Bravo to Paul R. I will stop by the
Runaway. Another bravo to all the Agawakers. But a special
bravo($50 tax deductible)to whom ever can get my Puddy back to
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 8:59 AM]
P'troff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=155960]
He'll be back Peter...like a moth to a flame!
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 1:25 PM]
JMoss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=156051]
Paging Jon Heller to the office we have a call from a girrlll!!
Jon Heller 6022;6022!!
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 1:55 PM]
Coner/Conehead, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=156052]
The Ice man cometh
I was in Las Vegas on Monday and it was 120 degrees and the
following Question ( I am sure Marksy , the artist formally
known as PUD , or Ptroff know the answer )came to Mind . Summer
1978 or 1979 - Scorcher at camp for a week straight and an ice
shortage , for some reason HH locks up the ice machine ( as
late night counselors were getting cotton Mouth at around 123
a.m.), One night someone breaks the door to the Ice machine and
HH goes off the next a.m. screaming and threatening to cancel
days off - anybody know the culprits ? - CB
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 8:41 PM]
Sea bass, , email@example.com, [Msgid=156189]
Sounds vaguely familiar
I think it might have been me!...I certainly wouldn't swear it
[Date/Time=08-29-01 - 11:17 PM]
JMoss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=156262]
Can't we all just get along, with PUD
I haven't checked the website in a while. PUDDY, coach, come on
down to Mempho and JP will make some red beans and rice and we
will have Shemp chop up some barbecue. We still love ya. I will
be seeing Bruce Frankel in New Orleans on Friday to visit. He
moved back to Houston about a year ago and is doing the same
thing as me, leasing shopping centers. I am heading to Las
Vegas next weekend to meet up with Gary Wolf, Bobby Weiss and
Richard Greenwald (as well as a few other fellas from Memphis).
Has Sara Marino gotten married yet? Did anyone make it to the
festivities? I would love to hear about it. Hope all is well
[Date/Time=08-30-01 - 1:22 AM]
Danny Buring, , email@example.com, [Msgid=156300]
My guess;It was JMoss in the lodge with the screwdriver!
[Date/Time=08-30-01 - 11:54 AM]
Coner/Conehead, , ,
Camp Girls and Kanto
Hi All; to answer Danny -- Sara Marino did get married in
Toronto. We heard from Dana Major last night who was just
there, and apparently it was a huge, elegant event, and the guy
is really great. Sara's film won "Best Canadian Film" at a NYC
filmfest. Dana's now married to a musician and they're moving
from Utah to Charlottesville in February. Kanto is moving to
Chicago and should be here by now.
[Date/Time=08-30-01 - 11:55 AM]
David Raskin, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=156410]
August 31, 1996 & 1997
Excuse me while I digress for a moment...I just wanted to wish
a happy anniversary to Rick and Richelle Mossler...and a VERY
SPECIAL Happy Anniversary to my wonderful Heidi who is three
months away from delivering her first camper...
[Date/Time=08-31-01 - 8:22 PM]
Gazzoo, , email@example.com, [Msgid=156911]
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