The Answer and Beef-A-Rama 2001 Report
Okay here's what you've all been waiting for...the person we
saw was former assistant secretary Linda Sosman, who is married
and living here in Oak Park.
As for Beef-A-Rama 2001, another great time was had by all. We
ran across Mike Fried, Mary Fried and Mark & Sandy Faiwell.
Mark told me a wonderful story about how he gave Sandy their
engagement ring on the side of the road while driving to
Rhinelander to bail Brian Lifsec out of jail.
The weather was beautiful, though a bit chilly at night, and
the town was packed even more than on 4th of July. The beefs
all looked great, and many folks had patriotic themes for their
displays. My goal for next year is to be a "Celeberty
Judge"...wish me luck!
[Date/Time=10-01-01 - 12:18 AM]
Gazzoo, email@example.com, [Msgid=167406]
I'm a little misty-eyed and fehklempt at the thought of the
romantic moment on Highway 47?..with Mark and Sandy.
[Date/Time=10-01-01 - 3:18 PM]
JMoss, , [Msgid=167570]
Power of the tongue
JayMoss thanks for chiming in on the Faiwell story...I was
thinking of the last few lines from Me and My Uncle as far as
"side of the road" goes...I too am getting choked up talk
amongst yourselves...need a topic? Okay Grandparents' Shabbat
should we bring the grandchildren to the morning services?
[Date/Time=10-01-01 - 10:54 PM]
P'troff, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=167749]
OK guys, so when did Beef-o-Rama get so big? I thought that
Columbus Day weekend was the biggie up there. Did they at least
have BLCAs? Do they make that stuff anymore? At least now I
know why Mark had to pass the hat around for bail money for
Lifsec. Even through Nick Belinki, rocks aint cheap. Saul
[Date/Time=10-05-01 - 1:34 PM]
Saul Sodos, email@example.com, [Msgid=169081]
I JUST BARFED SOME SODOS POPS!!
[Date/Time=10-05-01 - 7:03 PM]
Pud, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=169197]
"rocks aint cheap?" huh? Saul, I just don't Getz it and Pud
what in the John Tarney are you talking about?
[Date/Time=10-06-01 - 8:33 AM]
p'troff, email@example.com, [Msgid=169315]
I'm sooooooo confused!
and speaking of "what are you talking about?"..the grandparents
shabbat thing was a bit cryptic for me!
[Date/Time=10-08-01 - 9:19 AM]
JMoss, , [Msgid=169841]
JayMosshopper...if you wish to drown do not torture yourself
with shallow water. Bulgarian Proverb! See ya in chi-ville! Go
[Date/Time=10-08-01 - 9:53 PM]
p'troff, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=170100]
Looking for best Rib in America
I'M LOOKING FOR JOEY PIERCE......or anyone else from Memphis,
TN I was watching The Food Network tonight and saw some of the
greatest looking BBQ Ribs from the RENDEVOUS in Memphis,TN I
have ever seen. ARE THEY AS INCREDIBLE AS THEY LOOK OR ARE
THERE BETTER RIBS (that ship nationwide) IN MEMPHIS??????
[Date/Time=10-15-01 - 11:01 PM]
marksy, , [Msgid=172129]
Re: Pig on a Stick...
I know I'm going to get reamed, but I've gone to the Rendevous
a few times, and am not that big a fan. I guess you have to
like your ribs dry...
Give me Famous Dave's
Raskin, what's your fave?
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 12:37 AM]
Gazzoo, Ribs@FamousDaves.com, [Msgid=172163]
Hey, where have ya'll been?
I don't know where to begin, so I won't.
Anyway, I think you smoked me out with all this rib talk. All I
know about the best ribs around I learned are at the
Nightingale Restaurant in Highwood, IL. A medium sized babyback
hickory smoked and broiled to a crisp charred finish. These
ribs don't fall off the bone as in Southern style (boiled
first) ribs, they fight back a bit and your gonna need a few
toothpicks after dinner. I long ago figured out the secret to
their BBQ sauce....a pinch of clove powder. Dennis, the owner
would kill me, so mums the word.
A close second, and a very similar rib would be
Carson's of Skokie/Chicago,
speaking of The Food Network: ìthe best BBQ from New
England to Hawaii, they are known for their famous Wichita
Babybacks. Fortunately for me, they opened one here in Boca and
it's packed nightly. The wait can be long....unless your
grandmother was the Shadkhan for the original Carson's.
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 2:44 AM]
Bosco, YaHeyDer@Bibb&RibMe.com;, [Msgid=172197]
Still looking for the "KING OF CUE"
First of all....I'm looking for JP cause I respect nobodys
taste in "CUE" like his-- though Louis Klein (Jeffrey's little
brother from Russellville, KY) always knew a good BBQ when it
hit him in the face. Gazzoo, no way can the best rib be from a
franchise that has a birthday club on their Web Site---sorry!!
Bosco, I've been to your two choices many times....good solid
product but I know there is better to be had somewhere....and
its good to be able to flush you out of hibernation after a 6
month slumber. With all due respect to the Timber-Alums who
respond....THE FINAL SAY IS JP!!!!
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 10:40
AM] marksy, ,
The Rendezvous has been a frequent dining spot for Timber
reunions in Memphis. Ribs are excellent. I would venture to
guess that JP will tell you there are better ribs in Memphis,
but not ones that ship nationally. By the way, in the small
world department. I went to see Bob Dylan over the weekend with
some neighbors. One of them met a friend there named Pat. Turns
out Pat is Carl Bass's old college friend Pat. I think many of
you have met Pat over the years. He now lives in San Leandro
about a mile from my house.
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 11:32 AM]
Red, email@example.com, [Msgid=172272]
Did you treat Pat like Carl?
Red...did you hit Pat up for future free tickets?
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 2:19 PM]
marksy, , [Msgid=172342]
What's that supposed to mean?
Marksie, while Carl was generous enough to provide me passes to
many Dead shows (most of which I attended with him), I think
there was only one occasion over the years that I actually 'hit
him up' for tickets (a particularly difficult Red Rocks run). I
knew he was getting many such requests and made a point of
getting my own tickets whenever possible, unless he had offered
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 5:29 PM]
Red, , [Msgid=172390]
Mr. Marks...get a clue!!! THOSE of us ever so fortunate to have
attended some (8) Memphis Reunions during the late 80s, thru
its end into the mid 90s, partook in the 'Vous many times. Add
to that, I partook my share of times from 1979-83 on my
stop-thru trips to Mempho-Daddy, where Frank and Shelley Pierce
kindly adopted me as the son they'd always wanted, but never
had. You also missed a true Memphis treat in experiencing Cajun
delight at Harry's On Teur (for those familiar with Harry, he
went to prison for threatening to stab his neighbor's dog, but
according to Mr. Pierce, he might very well almost or already
be a Free Man now). Throw in Ferguson's on Summer (which is no
more) where we routinely wrapped up our escapades, and you
missed some truly awesome fressing (MEMPHIS-STYLE). You never
showed your white ass in the city where they learn to talk the
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 5:30 PM]
Pud, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=172391]
And the Answer Is.........
First of all, let's set the record straight.....true southern
ribs ARE NEVER BOILED!!!!!.....rib meat should NEVER fall off
the bone!! Ribs should be smoked under indirect heat....."low
& slow" as they say. The Rendezvous is a favorite place of
mine to frequent, a combo of tasty ribs, beers, appetizers,
etc....but they do not have the best ribs in town. My current
favorite rib is at The Cozy Corner and dare I say....a spare
rib! My feelings on other contenders: Carson's...good, but not
great; never been to the other two places, but would love to
try the place in Highwood?, or whatever it's called. As for
Gazzoo's selection, my past experiences w/ Gazzoo lead me to
think he's probably off base.....burgers, dogs, pizza & (I
hear) chinese he might know.....but leave the ribs to the
experts. We can hold a separate discussion on BBQ sandwiches at
a later date. Marksy.....call 1-800-HOGSFLY to order the
Rendezvous....get some Lamb Riblets too, if you can....they're
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 8:43 PM]
JP, , [Msgid=172472]
U Da Man JP
JP...a pro's pro---- you don't mess with JP when the subject is
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 10:12 PM]
marksy, , [Msgid=172504]
Had dinner with Petroffsky, Gazzoo, and Bobbo H. in Chicago
Friday night...Marksy pussed out...great to reminisce and catch
up with my brothers!...Marksy you missed out!
[Date/Time=10-16-01 - 10:59 PM]
JMoss, email@example.com, [Msgid=172515]
JP is 100% correct when he says ribs should NEVER be boiled.
There's nothing worse than ribs that slide with ease off the
bone. My rib vote goes to Russell's in Elmwood Park (corner of
North and Thatcher). Honorable mention to the Glass Dome
Hickory Pit by Comiskey Park. It only gets honorable mention
because I haven't been there in at least 5 years so I can't
vouch for its current product. Famous Dave's is acceptable, for
a chain, but can't compare to those listed above.
[Date/Time=10-17-01 - 12:57 PM]
David Susman, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=172682]
Zoo-U da Man!
Wow! First off bravo to Zoolander-great additions to posting
page! On a heavier note- Marksy you seem to have made a rapid
recovery, geeez The Food Network? Try OLN on cable you may be
motivated in new directions! Jaymoss you rock! Bobbo you are da
[Date/Time=10-17-01 - 9:26 PM]
Petroff, email@example.com, [Msgid=172836]
The Rendezvous is great place to take out-of-towners but JP is
right about Kozy Corner ribs (they also have bar-b-q cornish
hens). Bobby Handmaker was in town in April and we went to the
Rendezvous, Payne's, and Kozy Corner. Maybe Bobby can shed
light on the Q issue. Pud-I did not know about the adoption by
[Date/Time=10-17-01 - 9:35 PM]
Howard Segal, @aol, [Msgid=172841]
Since all Memphians are throwing their few cents in here to
discuss the food topics, I will address a few items:
1) JP and Howard are correct.
2) Harry DID STAB his neighbor over an ongoing dispute
about the neighbor's dog, and did spend several years on the
local chain gang.
He opened his new establishment "Harry's Detour", and I can
report that the food is just as tasty as ever. FYI - My wife
and I were engaged at the original restaurant about 9 1/2 years
[Date/Time=10-17-01 - 11:16 PM]
Danny Buring, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=172871]
Was "Harry's On Teur" the place we went during one of the
Memphis reunions with a balcony out close to the street? Also,
what was the name of the place where they served very thin
hamburgers that were dropped in the vat of grease and cooked
before they came back to the surface?
[Date/Time=10-18-01 - 9:18 AM]
Willy, email@example.com, [Msgid=172923]
Well, we've got some real good enchiladas here in Tucson...
[Date/Time=10-18-01 - 9:19 AM]
Lee Glicksman, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=172924]
Willy and the Poor Burgers
Brian, the place you're thinking of is called Dyer's. I
tell people about it all the time and no one believes it. They
don't have a website, but there are pictures of their Beale
Street location (not the one we went to during Camp Heinous) at
[Date/Time=10-18-01 - 9:40 AM]
Gazzoolander, email@example.com, [Msgid=172934]
Wasn't the grease at Dyer's 50 years old?
[Date/Time=10-19-01 - 1:36 AM]
Danny Plattner, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=173250]
GREASE is the word...
I recall reading that when Dyer's moved to a new locale several
years back, there was a big ceremony and motorcade (including
the Mayor) to bring the vat of grease over.
[Date/Time=10-19-01 - 1:14 PM]
Gazzoo, email@example.com, [Msgid=173424]
I still think the finest barbecued items were
Nano's cooked by JP at the cookout area...at least I remember
them the most fondly!
[Date/Time=10-19-01 - 7:08 PM]
JMoss, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=173597]
Sweet Home Chicago
Lee with all due respect...nevermind! Thanks for yer deep
perspective on the Q-scene Memphisonians, but the home of Da
Blues is also the home of Da Q! Enough said...share a moist
towelette amongst yourselves!
[Date/Time=10-19-01 - 11:18 PM]
P'troff, email@example.com, [Msgid=173655]
Dem's Fightin' Words
Home of da Blues and the Q? Are we talking Mempho or Chi-town?
I will say Chicago definetly has better Hot Dogs.
[Date/Time=10-20-01 - 11:04 AM]
Red, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=173726]
Red, I was tawkin bout Chicago! But Redson tell us what is Kali
famous for re: food? Please refrain from granola based
foodstuffs! Go Bears!
[Date/Time=10-20-01 - 1:42 PM]
P'troff, email@example.com, [Msgid=173773]
Eat it Raw!!!
I'll put our Sushi up against any place in the country. Go
[Date/Time=10-20-01 - 1:49 PM]
Red, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=173774]
Sorry Peter, but you are wrong on both counts!!! Do the
research, Mempho is the Home of the Blues & King of the
Que!! The bluesmen might have ended up in Chicago, but they
learned & honed their craft & styles here in Memphis
& the Mississippi Delta.......Troffskihopper, you of all
people, should have been aware of the facts.
[Date/Time=10-20-01 - 8:29 PM]
JP, , [Msgid=173846]
WHERE IS SAUL SODA-POP???
[Date/Time=10-21-01 - 12:04 AM]
PUD, email@example.com, [Msgid=173886]
Setting the Record Straight...
JP, I must correct
you my friend as we all know that both the blues and que were
the invention of Da Coach, Mike Ditka. The blues came into
being when Ditka first donned the blue and orange of Da Bears
in 1961. And que was mastered by Da Coach when he served his
first helping of bbq pork chops in his downtown eatery. While
we're on the subject Pud, don't give me that crap about Cajun
music and Jambalaya being native to New Orleans, when it's
common knowledge that Ditka was in the Windy City for many
years before going to the Saints...Finally, I got some bad news
for Red and all his cohorts who are into that so-called "San
Francisco" sound...may I refresh your memory as to October 13,
1985, when Da Coach led his troops to a 26-10 pasting of the
"69ers", as we like to call 'em...
[Date/Time=10-21-01 - 1:48 AM]
DaGazzoo, me@PolishSausage.com, [Msgid=173898]
Zoolander thanks for having my back (baby-back that is)! Zoo
don't worry about Pud, JP, Marksy and the like...I don't think
there is a timber-alum alive who can out-trivia you in specific
arenas. By the way Red as far as sushi goes-- New York
"Salmonizes" yer neck of the motherboard!
[Date/Time=10-21-01 - 4:07 PM]
P'troffskihopper, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=174036]
Go Bears...Colts Suck
Hey!!! No Fingers!
[Date/Time=10-21-01 - 5:46 PM]
JMoss, email@example.com, [Msgid=174066]
BUT JOSEPH PIERCE...
BUT JOSEPH PIERCE WHEN HE ROLLS OUT HIS MEMPHIS SMOKER IS STILL
THE KING OF 'CUE.
[Date/Time=10-23-01 - 4:18 PM]
PUD, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=174775]
By The Way.....
[Date/Time=10-23-01 - 11:31 PM]
JP, , [Msgid=174948]
Speaking of Sucking
When are they gonna bring McRib's back....now there's some good
[Date/Time=10-24-01 - 5:12 PM]
Red, , [Msgid=175183]
Q plays for the Clippers
Did I hear JP invited us down for a smoker? By the way, the
McBrat is not too bad...
[Date/Time=10-25-01 - 10:48 AM]
Next Food Item
But what is the best pizza?. . .
give me Spang's -- Milwaukee Favorite!
[Date/Time=10-25-01 - 7:07 PM]
JMoss, , [Msgid=176250]
Thick or thin?
Haven't had it in a long time...but that Nancy's Deep Dish
place by Gazzoo's old apartment was pretty damn good. As far as
thin goes...I have had some slices in N.Y.C. hole-in-the-walls
that rival anything I've had anywhere. Pete....before you ask,
the pizza pretty much sucks out here 'cept for a few places
that serve decent 'gourmet' pizza's that I wouldn't put in the
same classification as the good old standard 'zza.
[Date/Time=10-25-01 - 9:43 PM]
Red, , [Msgid=176298]
I respectfully disagree...
Geez...everyone loves Nancy's
apparently more than I do. My favorite (as opposed to 'the
best') deep dish is the original Pizzeria Uno's downtown. I know Uno's has
some franchises elsewhere, but these wannabies just don't make
their 'zza like the flagship location; they use a shortcut
recipe in order to serve the masses.
I must agree with the Spangheads, as it is my fave thin crust.
Here's a dining tip...next time you go there, order your pizza
"Pie Cut", so you get the big triangle pieces as opposed to the
little square ones.
But for some REALLY good eatin, nothing beats the burgers at
Kopp's in Milwaukee (across from the Echo Bowl). Every trip
north now includes a Kopp's stop. Okay Marksy Marks, let's see
you insult me for saying that!
[Date/Time=10-25-01 - 10:39 PM]
Gazzoo, email@example.com, [Msgid=176316]
Burgers n' Pizza
Was Solly's the name of the place in Milwaukee that served the
burgers with the buttered grilled buns? Those were sure worth
the clogged arteries. Gazzoo, I hope the flagship is better
than the franchise's cause the UNO's I've been to aren't very
good at all.
[Date/Time=10-25-01 - 11:15 PM]
Red, , [Msgid=176320]
nrdt shre pie
Pizza, now there's something worth talkin' about. I vote for
Calo's on Clark in Andersonville on the north side (5500 or
so). It's an Italian family place for Italian families with
murals of the old country on the wall. But the stuffed spinach
is worth the hour drive from out in in Oak Park.
[Date/Time=10-26-01 - 5:11 PM]
David Raskin, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=176549]
Hey Puddy, I'm HERE
I'm here in the northern burbs of Chicago. I lived in Lincoln
Park before I was married, and even had the good fortune to run
into Gazzoo once..
FWIW, the best ribs I ever had were in Minneapolis of all
places. It was called Rudolph's Ribs at the corner of Hennepin
& Lake. In Milwaukee, the custard is best at a place on S.
27th Street (can't remember the name now.) The best burgers are
at a place in Lincoln Park; John Barleycorns. What makes the
difference is the Bass on tap to wash it down.
[Date/Time=10-26-01 - 5:51 PM]
Saul Sodos, email@example.com, [Msgid=176565]
The Best Pigcicle
After being reminded, JP and I both agree the best ribs in the
world ARE here in Chicago, at Adam's Ribs by the
Dearborn Street station. And don't dare forget the cole
[Date/Time=10-26-01 - 9:41 PM]
Gazzoo, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=176610]
SOURCE OF PUD'S HEADACHES
For those of us who do not have DSL or a cable modem, have you
ever noticed the color of the initial screen of this website as
it loads before all of the graphix? Gazzoo just today confirmed
that he did not set it up this way on purpose....And the answer
[Date/Time=10-27-01 - 8:01 PM]
FYI - Saul !
Hey Saul, FYI the famous Rudolf's BBQ is at the corner of
Lyndale and Franklin Ave. in Minneapolis. The Lake and Hennipin
location is Famous Dave's butt rockin' Blues and Q. Give me a
call if any of you Timber Folks are in town and we'll do North
[Date/Time=10-28-01 - 2:27 PM]
Coner/Conehead, medgasco2aol.com, [Msgid=176972]
Food for the Dead
Gorch....black, negro, raven? All dis food tawk is makin me
hungre I'm headin to mickey d's for a McBrat and then to White
Castle for a slider and a shake!! Excuse me while I kiss the
[Date/Time=10-28-01 - 3:01 PM]
P'troff, nunya, [Msgid=176975]
Hey, had brunch with Mike Kanovitz and his young girlfriend
yesterday -- 25? He's moved to Chicago -- Wicker Park -- and is
working in one of the usual Timber-alum professions. He's the
fittest I've ever seen him. (Young girlfriend?)
[Date/Time=10-29-01 - 3:12 PM]
David Raskin, ,
And the Answer????
So what am I missing that our bandwidth deprived friends see?
Is it some kind of Japanese Anime'? Do I need to worry about
going into convulsions when I enter the board, or will it just
make me hungry for taco's and bug juice?
[Date/Time=10-30-01 - 10:57 AM]
Red, , [Msgid=177734]
Paging C Bass!!
Paging Carl Bass. Just had a jewish focus group in Minneapolis
with your bro, JON from Appleton, Wi.via NY. It didn't take
long to put the Belinky, Bassowitz, HH, connection together!!
Timber folks just can smell each other. Give a holler and tell
me where you are. And are you as spiritual as your brother?
[Date/Time=10-30-01 - 10:00 PM]
Coner/conehead, email@example.com, [Msgid=178055]
Lee, would you please end a bet and give me the correct
spelling for that puffed pastry desert in your town. "
Soppapia's"?? Thanks, and hold off on the powdered sugar for
this batch in the mail.
[Date/Time=10-30-01 - 10:05 PM]
Coner/conehead, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=178057]
Dessert in the Desert
Greeting from the Old Pueblo, home of th Southwest's largest
collection of dust. I miss you guys. Don't any of you travel to
Tucson during the winter? The Cubs have spring training here in
March. Somebody? Anybody? BTW, it's sopapillas. The 2 Ls of
course forming the Y sound. Some spell it sopaipillas. Lee
[Date/Time=10-31-01 - 12:07 AM]
Lee, email@example.com, [Msgid=178081]
Tucson in March
Lee...will be there the 3rd week of March with my wife!...we'll
have to hook up!
[Date/Time=10-31-01 - 11:55 PM]
JMoss, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=178480]
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