Archive 3 -
HAPPY NEW YEAR TIMBER-DUDES
...Looking forward to seeing you all in August!
Jeff Mossler, , email@example.com, [Msgid=29901]
There was one?
PudBlomaxDewMan, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=30375]
Songs That Remind You of Camp?
Answer me this... What songs remind you of Timberlane when you
hear them on the radio? For me, it's that instrumental
"Frankenstein", because I always used to play it on KTIM.
Bob Gassel, , email@example.com, [Msgid=30866]
Songs that remind me of camp...
"Promontory Rider" (JGB with Robert Hunter); The entire album:
Clarence Gatemouth Brown "Feel Alright Again", "U.S. Blues"
(because driving home from camp one summer, we were "zipped" by
the lyrics "summertime done come and gone my oh my".
Rick Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=30901]
Tennessee Stud. I mostly remember JP? singing this song. Also,
Dana Major just visited. She and my wife are coauthoring a
particularly cheesy romance novel. Dana looks exactly like she
used to. She's a ceramic artist based in Park City, UT, who
sells to over 130 galleries.
David Raskin, , email@example.com, [Msgid=30922]
Gazzoo...thanks for getting the ball rolling after the
equivalent of the dreaded lull in the conversation..."Here
Comes the Sun" by the Beatles (Aztec 1977), Me & My Uncle
(Peter at campfires).."Wildfire"... Jim
Meyers..."Moondance"....Liz Derderian....are some of the songs
come to mind...I know I'll think of more later. P.S. I still
think of MP's first Dead concert at Alpine every time I hear
Jeff Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=30976]
Favorite Road Trip
Moss, that Alpine show was my second, the machine-like drive of
the 'Fire' stayed with me for years. It was that show that
really got me hooked. It was my second-favorite camp roadtrip,
Dead at Madtown ('83) was the best (show and trip). Sorry you
weren't there, but your bro' and MP were. While almost any Dead
song seems to have some camp memory for me...the Jungle Jim
campfire songs were the ones that really remind me purely of
camp (Wildfire..etc). Also, Callahan's "I've Been Everywhere".
As far as sing-along songs go, nothing beats a good "Green
Red, , email@example.com, [Msgid=30989]
The attack of JP's car
Speaking of Dead shows at Alpine, who remembers the attack of
the naked man on JP's car? Fortunately, Red was babysitting me
that night. By the way, Gazzoo, "Take a Letter Maria".
Danny Plattner, (520) 750-0464, firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31009]
"LA Woman"---in Cherokee, on Pud's killer speakers, over &
over, LOUD! (Pud on the air-keyboard)
"Here Comes The Sun"---floating in the middle of Towanda on a
ski boat that Peter & I 'stole' for an entire weekend.
G. Bensons "Breezin"---with J. Moss in Sioux while playng
hand-held electronic bowling, Ya hey
Callahan's version of "I've Been Everywhere"---trying hard to
catch all the lyrics, know most of them now...20yrs later.
Steely Dan "Royal Scam"---album survived in the Pot Shop for
quite a few years and many clay fights.
"Diamond Girl", "Wolfman Jack's Greatest Hits", "Day Tripper",
"Shine on You Crazy Diamond", "Sha Na Na",---Yes, you're
listening to KTIM, 1500 on your AM dial.
Last but not least---Every time I hear a bell I have this
Pavlovian reflex and a strong urge to run and set a table.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=31030]
I think I mentioned somewhere the entire Fleetwood Mac "Rumors"
album was played all summer in my cabin '77. I can't hear any
song off that without thinking about Timberlane. An interesting
addendum question: How many of you began listening to the
Grateful Dead because you heard it at Timberlane first? That's
where I heard them for the first time, and shortly after camp
one year I picked up "Shakedown Street" and went from there.
Finally, I could swear I remember Red talking to someone one
day at the Grille site (makin' burgers). And he said he thought
he heard Bobby sing, "One's for sport, One's for blood at the
point of a gun" during "Jack Straw". Then they followed it up
talking about Bobby's yelping "haiiiii". And having no clue, I
thought it was one of the strangest conversations I had ever
mark plattner, , email@example.com, [Msgid=31146]
Hey Bosco, was thinking about those bowling matches the other
day when someone was playing "elf bowling" on a PC...a similar
game...by the way I'm fairly certain we were in Cheyenne, not
Sioux....you slept there enough, you should know!....P.S. who
was more brutal "Booza" or the "Workhorse?"
Jeff Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31199]
Moss is right.....again
Your right Jeff, I do remember waking up in Cheyenne. But I
also remember napping in Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, Winnebago,
Arapaho, Hawk, etc. etc.
And yes, I love that Elf Bowl game! Anyone who would like a
copy of it just let me know and I'll send it off.
Gotta go now, getting sleepy.
Bosco, Barnacle Bill, YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=31234]
Camp songs? Who can forget the sounds of the Pierce boys
singing "Rocky Racoon" at the 15-year reunion. Every time my
kids act up all I have to say is that Uncle Joey and Uncle MP
(Mr. Penis) are going to come over and sing "Rocky Racoon" if
they don't calm down and somehow they get very quiet. Go
Danny Buring, 901-818-3104, email@example.com, [Msgid=31303]
GOOD 'OLE MOUNTAIN DEW...YAHOO!
All I have to do to remind me of, perhaps, the most infamous,
SEMI-SCHITZOID campfire song is to be "Goin' Down The Road
(Feelin' Bad)" and see a Mountain Dew truck "goin' down the
road (feelin' bad)" or....better yet, log onto YAHOO! (or watch
their stock) and belt out a BIG
1(800)BLOWMAX, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31406]
Number 9 and Rosy
I remember a particularly brutal camp song experience. Rosy was
driving us up to Ely, MN in the Seidy for a Canadian. Meadow
was in the way back. Rosy blasted the Beatles' "Revolution #9"
over and over again -- probably 30 minutes worth. Since then, I
never listen to the White Album, and I bet Meadow doesn't
David Raskin, , email@example.com, [Msgid=31407]
Pud Doesn't Smoke
Rick Moss- Do you still have the Gatemouth album Pud traded you
for a cigarette?
Red, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31528]
YOU REMEMBER THAT??? RICK--3 AND 3 IS 6 BABE...6 AND 3 is
PUDERICK, 1(800)FLOWMAX, email@example.com, [Msgid=31564]
Camper of the Year
I'm thinking about grilling out steaks and having a staff
Jeff Leiken, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31578]
Funny Timber moments
How about a new topic?...the hardest you ever laughed at camp
and/or the funniest Pow Wow/UN skit or speech...I remember
being in a ski boat roping for Peter for Meadow's Timberbat
tryout when he lifted a ski, it fell off and Peter immediately
floored the boat...Meadow wiped out and me and Peter laughed
for 5 minutes before going to pick him up...Hardest I ever
laughed not under any influence.
Jeff Mossler, , email@example.com, [Msgid=31773]
I reserve the right to add to this music memory list! 1. 10
year old me, Pow Wow Day 1977 (my first), Aztec, opening
ceremonies, the entire team is holding Jeff Mossler aloft on a
gymnastics pad parading around the athletic field as "Here
Comes The Sun" is playing over the P.A. A great song and a
great memory. 2. An entire album. 1981 (I think), Cheyenne (I
think), Jeff Mossler (again!) and Bosco were the counselers. I
seem to recall Rick Mossler being around a lot also that year.
Tom Callahan too. The acoustic twang of "Reckoning" dominated
my music scene that summer. I remember various folk playing
along on their guitars with the album, trying to get the cords
down (particularly "Monkey And The Engineer). 3. Another album.
"Down On The Farm".
David Susman, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31780]
Suss reminded me that I omitted 'Down On The
Farm'....Definately was a camp album..as well as 'Waiting For
BTW David, you were one of my campers? :)
That must have been the year I went to Camp Annex.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=31808]
Greetings From The Southwest
I just wanted to add that I'm posting from Phoenix, AZ, at a
Gorchoff family reunion. And that Gary & Nancy, Maggie,
Jamie, Ma & Pa Gorchoff, and Reggie Jackson (staying in our
Hotel) send their best to all of you. Camp was one of the main
topics at poolside today....and we shared many stories and
We all are jazzed to see yas at the 40th, and August will be
here before you know it.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=31809]
Bosco, the only reason I know (think?) you were a counseler of
mine is because I looked back at one of my memory books. To
tell you the truth, I didn't really remember you being a
counseler of mine. Obviously, it must have been a great summer
David Susman, , email@example.com, [Msgid=31848]
That Doctor Song
Pud and Carl Bass played quite a bit of "Breakfast in America"
in '79. "Legend" (Bob Marley) and The Band remind me of logging
trails in an Isuzu Trooper with pinche Daniel Buring. Then
there's "Roland the Headless"... or anything by Zevon and
pretty much the entire Annex jukebox. And the guys that sing
that "Doctor Song"...
Ross, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=31955]
The Long Lost Tribe of Memphis
Hello everyone. Bobby Weiss reporting for duty. Paul Rosenbloom
told me about the site today and it is great to read so many
familiar names. I e-mailed Richard Greenwald today, and I will
follow up with Gary Wolf tomorrow. I am in Highland Park, IL
(Something that I swore that I would never do after meeting
some of the child products), have been married for 10 years and
have 2 wonderful children, Josh 5, and Allie 2. My e-mail is
Bobby Weiss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=32069]
Stanley Clarke..."School Days". Can't you just picture Pud
playing the air bass next to those huge speakers? That is a
classic vision. Not a pretty one, yet classic nonetheless.
Bobby Weiss, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=32070]
Two albums that quickly come to mind are Head East's "Flat as a
Pancake" and Supertramp's "Crime of the Century". Jeff 'Roux'
Roth was the keeper of "Flat as a Pancake" and I don't remember
who carried the torch for Supertramp, but I am fairly certain
it was someone from Milwaukee, since they loved playing at the
Oriental Theater and it was their 1st US show.
JP, , email@example.com, [Msgid=32245]
At socials..."Good Lovin"....George Benson's "This
Masquerade".... P.S. Have you seen the commercial (for a car or
truck I think) with Johnny Cash's version of "I've Been
Everywhere"....brings back fond campfire memories!....How about
"Dueling Banjos" with Bob Perlstein on banjo and a one year
S.C. whose name escapes me on flute!...it didn't get any better
than that musically at the campfires!
Jeff Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=32343]
The flutist was Mike Holober. And don't forget the ultimate
crash album....John Klemmer's "Touch".
JP, , email@example.com, [Msgid=32346]
BUCKET NIGHT (AND MORNING AFTER) STORIES
OK...I think we've sufficiently covered most of the musical
ground here. I'm quite certain (in the grossest of Timberlane
traditon), a lot of us can shed some light from our booting (I
mean Bucket Night) experiences. I've already shared with you
(see December Archive) what I accidentally discovered in my
pants the morning after.
Hey J. Moss--Great total recall on the Meadow wipe-out! It was
a great timber moment that we shared, a real maxillofacial
workout! But for me my greatest laugh turned into a cry when
Faiwell flushed our "Canadian Fun" down the toilet, and a week
later I was in a Rhinelander courthouse defending myself
against the likes of Jimmy Olshefsky! Boz should be able to
recall that one unless he is shrink-wrapped in a Jerry Garcia
tye-dye afterworld. Oh, and my favorite camp song was "Little
Green Frog", watching Komisar turn crimson red while spuing out
"yak,yak,yak", all for the bemusement of H! and J.P. Johnny
Meissner carried the torch for Supertramp.
Petroff, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=32433]
More Moss Memories et.al
J.Moss--I recall during a social one hot summer night...you
were dancing like a raving madman to some "Soul" music...Earth,
Wind & Fire type of stuff; in any event, you were sweating
worse than Gelindo working next to Dorothy Herlitz. Moss was
just a throwin down with some ebony hotties (yes they existed
in the Northwoods), while your buddies reminisced and baked in
the trip shack! Other laughs centered around fat ass Robbie
Schiller and his contagious laughter, while other laughs were
perpetuated by Rosy and his lunatic antics! Otherwise I was
consumed with many hours of smiles and great laughs provided by
the rest of the Timbergang...too numerous to mention, but they
know who they are and I know they know I know!
Petroff, , email@example.com, [Msgid=32532]
You no longer have to check the Central Area every day to see
if your missing a Pud bashing, a Marksy hotel debate, or a
favorite 'booting' story. Mind-ItÆ will track the web
page and notify you when something has been posted. Here is the
(Note, I use this for the 'Announcements' page and others
1) Go To:
Click here for The Central Area Or
here for Announcements
2) Click the 'Mind-It' button at top of page
3) Click the 'page minding' button at top
4) Enter your email address on fourth line and click 'attach
web page'...click 'Mind-it' button to continue
5) The next page does not have to be filled out...just click
You will be notified by email when the page is updated, and
there will be a link in that email to take you directly to the
site. Hope this helps, send complaints to P'troffsky.
Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=32611]
I want to apologize to everyone for giving the site's address
to Bob Weiss. I really did not think that hillbillies had
online capabilities. I hope he is not too bothersome.
Paul Rosenblum, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=32755]
The little piece of ****
I just think that it is great that Paul can finally reach the
bob weiss, , email@example.com, [Msgid=32798]
I'm not sure if Corrine from the Arrowhead is deceased...I
thought I heard she was. If so, her epitaph should read, "Help
yourself to a piece of my Tombstone, I probably had several
pieces of yours!"
Jeff Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=32907]
South Not Claiming Bobby Weiss
Paul Rosenblum--FYI-After 4 years at Indiana and 13 years in
Chicago, Bobby Weiss has now been "up there" (da north) longer
than he was "down here" (da south). I look forward to seeing
everyone in August, even Bobby Weiss and PUD. I am headed to
Charlotte, NC next month, and am planning on spending a few
days with the true Pinchitte, Ross Cahn.
Danny Buring, 901-818-3104, email@example.com, [Msgid=33252]
Most Memorable Counselors
Let's try a new topic. Who was your most memorable (not
favorite) counselor? The one that sticks out in my mind was
Bill Davies in 75'. He never hesitated to share with us 11 and
12 year olds his tales of "liquor and women" including his
harrowing account of having totalled a camp car the previous
year. I guess Bill was kind of an idiot...but he shared his
idiocy with his campers and made you feel like you were in on
the action. It really made me want to be a counselor.
Greg 'Red' Schatten, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=33552]
Gazzoo's Most Memorable Counselor...
Mine was Nick Belinke in Arapaho 1972. He used to take off
after dinner and return around 2am with a couple of gallons of
A&W.; Plus, anybody who would kick Todd Chapman (our PA) out of
the cabin in the middle of Cruiser Day is okay in my
Bob Gassel, , email@example.com, [Msgid=33553]
Agree with Gazzoo that Belinke was great!...Still use his "no
shortstops at Belinke's table" rule at my own table. I remember
the T.C. incident well! Also remember his song about how cold
it was? "Colder than the frost on a root beer glass"....etc.
etc. My other favorite was Lee Glicksman who also haunted
Chapman when we were in the P.A. cabin. Lee was hilarious, and
treated all of us equally. Great storyteller.
Jeff Mossler, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=33673]
Blow max blowing off steam!
Hey Pud..got your E-mail about the Timberlane newsletter and to
quote a line from "Stripes,"... "lighten up Francis!" Don't pop
a vessel over it.
Jeff Mossler, , email@example.com, [Msgid=33674]
You're a Menace...
I just spent a day with Bryant Esch up near Stevens Point. He's
got a classic staff meeting by the tramps from 1984 on
videotape. H is on an hour-long stream of consciousness rant,
he mimicks both Stoler and Grinder (the blond-haired guy who
"worked" for Rat), says "you're a menace" repeatedly, tells us
how much he loves us, says we need to go through our campers'
trunks, mentions two six-week campers who went home with only
19 and 18 pieces of clothing respectively, says the staff is
tired. He also talks about an upcoming Parents Weekend and a
camp competition with Algonquin. Gorch is always saying, "H,
say something about ____." Red and Pud spend at least half an
hour making faces at the camera. Someone fakes feeling up Jody
Plotkin. People there include Brandstein, Shimmy, Branovan,
Donny, Kanto, Meadow, Willie, Perl, Eddie, Dean, Leiken (who
filmed it), Esch, Doug David, MP. Billy Fried who was at camp
must have been on a parts run. David Avadeck (that guy who
thought about buying camp) wanders in and out. Most people
tried to sleep through the meeting. When that didn't work,
people threw sticks at each other. Afterwards when walking by
the camera, the comments are about how we need to eat more
starch, and how this was the most brutal staff meeting ever.
This video also has other scenes of Callahan and Bratter making
a film, Kanto and Plotkin in the computer room, Buring in the
weight shack, and so on. Esch has a couple thousand photos, as
he was one of camp's official photographers for years.
David Raskin, , firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=33854]
"FRANCIS HAD A BADDDDD DAY"
What can I say? My WELLBUTRIN SR (150 MG, BID) just didn't seem
to kick in the night I decided to bend Mike Cohen's ears back.
They always say that when you're composing something of a
"strong nature" (especially at night), sleep on it and see how
you feel in the morning. I failed to do that. I felt like I had
a brain tumor (Pud has a tumor, Pud has a tumor) last Friday.
I'm happy to report that both Mr. Cohen and I have extended
apologies to each other and he actually emailed me a letter
that made me feel good not only about myself, but about him as
well. Also, he already knew that my real name was "Jonathan M.
Heller" and he enjoys the Gazzoo Site a lot.
PudManDew, , email@example.com, [Msgid=33935]
My most memorable counselor was Donna Werkheiser. She taught me
that when you chop wood, it heats you twice: once when you chop
it, and once when you burn it! Oh, and Pud...are you taking dos
doses of Wellbutrin as an atypical antidepressant or to stop
P'troff, , Buproion@valleyofthedolls.orgy, [Msgid=34039]